Problems with my Grohe mixer

Problems with my Grohe mixer

Postby timboughton » Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:45 pm

Hi

I have a Grohe mixer (I'm not exactly sure which model - perhaps a 1000 or 2000? - maybe you can tell from the photo). The shower worked perfectly for about a year since I moved in, now it is generally luke warm or cold. It never gets hot.

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I've been doing some diagnoses as follows:

* I have a combi boiler and elsewhere in the flat the water is piping hot (from all the taps, including the basin in the bathroom)
* There are two screws right and left which seem to adjust the pressure of the incoming water (cold and hot respectively). When I turn the right hand screw down I can get the temperature to rise but then the pressure drops right off and sometimes it's not even enough to draw the combi boiler on - defeating the object
* I did an experiment: I took the cartridge out and rigged up a plastic tube to carry the water safely away, then I turned the water back on without the cartridge in place. The water flowed at a decent rate and when I tuned the right hand screw down a bit, the water ran hot

So I suspect my problem is that inexplicably the cold water pressure has increased to the point where the thermostat can no longer balance the temperature properly?

My problem is that I assume what I really need to do is put a flow limiter in the cold flow to the shower. Except the connector is behind my tiles - is there anything I can do to except add a flow limiter? Might a new thermostat be able to balance the flow rates better? Can I try and partially block the cold flow behind the right screw to help?

Any ideas which don't require me to destroy my bathroom very welcome.

Thanks
Tim
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Postby The Doc » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:45 pm

Hi Tim

The temp at the taps etc. is a bit of a red herring, as the flow rate at the taps is different to the flow rate at the shower.

I presume you have had the thermostat out and made sure that the filters are clear.

If they are OK then it sounds like you have a flow rate /pressure problem however by the looks of the things you have tried and the fact that it was OK in the past the only thing left is to try a new cartridge.

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Postby timboughton » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:13 am

Thanks for the advice. I want to buy a replacement thermostatic cartridge for my shower...

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I've been speaking to Grohe technical support and the problem I have is I'm no longer convinced that my shower is actually a Grohe model...

I'm struggling because I don't have any paperwork to go with my shower. I thought it was a Grohe shower (the shower head itself has a Grohe logo) but it seems from speaking with Grohe that the shower mixer whilst similar to their 1000 model is not actually theirs. Apparently theirs has a Grohe logo on it and the cartidge itself and mine doesn't

Anyway, I'm including these photos in the hope you can help me recognise what model this is and then see if you can obtain one for me?

The one thing I have to go on is a guarantee which I found (which may or not relate to the shower mixer) but which appears to be from an Italian company called SOL spa? I've no idea if that helps or not!

Let me know if you need anything else to be sure - and then I'll buy a cartridge!

Cheers
Tim [/img]
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Postby The Doc » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:21 am

Hi

Your shower is a Crosswater and this is your cartridge. http://www.shower-warehouse.co.uk/erol.html#1092X2416

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Postby timboughton » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:22 am

Brilliant - thanks. I've ordered one

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Postby The Doc » Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:58 am

Thanks for the order Tim
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